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HELP! Stain removal

Posted by: Sammi Apr 2 2006, 04:47 PM

Anna just got purple nail polish on her brand new, wore once, lime green cotton capres. Any ideas?

Posted by: Michelle Apr 2 2006, 04:52 PM

Only thing I can think of is....if you don't mind that they might be ruined (which, I would think, as they are now, they are ruined), is to use nail polish remover, blotting often. Then wash.

Posted by: chocolatechic Apr 2 2006, 04:52 PM

Nail polish remover.........or Goof-Off.

Posted by: Sammi Apr 2 2006, 05:00 PM

dh just ran to the market, to get more nail polish remover. I did a search, they suggest patting w/ water and laundry detergent. Doesn't work at all.

Ughh!

Posted by: chocolatechic Apr 2 2006, 05:01 PM

The daughter spilled hot pink nail polish on my cream colored carpet...Goof off took it right out.

Posted by: cctabb Apr 2 2006, 05:10 PM

What is Goof off? Where do you get it? Does it work on ground-into-the-carpet play-doh?


Posted by: chocolatechic Apr 2 2006, 05:12 PM

I get mine at Walmart, but Lowes has it too. It is in the hardware section....along with the paint removal stuff....

I don't know about playdough... dunno.gif

Posted by: Tressa Apr 2 2006, 05:30 PM

I don't know about the nail polish. I hope that you find something that works.

As for the play dough...I use ice to get it out of the carpet. But, I bet the goof off would work for that too. yes.gif

Posted by: Donna Apr 2 2006, 05:35 PM

Please let us know how it goes Sammi. IPB Image

Posted by: Sammi Apr 2 2006, 06:07 PM

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The polish remover didn't work at all.

It is sitting w/ detergent on top. I bet that won't work either!

Posted by: wings Apr 2 2006, 08:07 PM

Goof off for sure is the only thing I could think 'might' get it off.

Ber

Posted by: foxchild Apr 2 2006, 09:17 PM

Hope you find something that works.

Posted by: gsmp Apr 2 2006, 09:33 PM

I would have to second the Goof Off.

Posted by: cctabb Apr 2 2006, 11:16 PM

QUOTE(chocolatechic @ Apr 2 2006, 03:12 PM)

I get mine at Walmart, but Lowes has it too. It is in the hardware section....along with the paint removal stuff....

I don't know about playdough... dunno.gif


Thanks. We are planning a trip to Wal-mart next week. I'll get it and try.


Posted by: Sammi Apr 3 2006, 10:38 AM

Still there I need to get that stuff and try it!

Posted by: chocolatechic Apr 3 2006, 10:39 AM

Whatever you do.......don't put the pants in the dryer before the stain comes out.

Posted by: Sammi Apr 3 2006, 12:25 PM

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You are right about that one.

Posted by: AKHomemom Apr 3 2006, 06:54 PM

I'll have to look for Goof Off next time at Lowes or WM ( would it be in the laundry or paint section of WM?).

Posted by: chocolatechic Apr 3 2006, 07:47 PM

It is in the paint thinner, remover part.

Posted by: AKHomemom Apr 3 2006, 08:38 PM

Thank you. smile.gif

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Swimmers Ear & tea tree oil

Posted by: wings Apr 28 2006, 09:38 AM

I wasn't sure where to post this so I put it here. Yochi was crying with a swimmers ear last night. I had an idea that tea tree oil would be good since it is an anti fungal. After a ton of research I found the recipe for using Olive Oil and Tea Tree oil for swimmers ear. I thought I would share it here. I used 1 Tbspn olive oil and 3 drops of Tea Tree oil. I put that in Yochi's ear last night and his ear is not hurting this morning.

This is the time of year for this ailment. blush.gif

Ber

Posted by: Michelle Apr 28 2006, 09:44 AM

We use this ourselves, is very good!

Tea tree oil is also very good for athelete's foot. Nail fungus. Cuts, scratches, scrapes. And at $4 a bottle at Walmart, a good buy. yes.gif Especially with Summertime here...and all of it's challenges.


Posted by: hs4hmom Apr 28 2006, 10:01 AM

I use it mostly on my dogs. I fix a shampoo for them. It really helps their skin and fur.

Posted by: chocolatechic Apr 28 2006, 10:59 AM

QUOTE(Michelle @ Apr 28 2006, 09:44 AM)

We use this ourselves, is very good!

Tea tree oil is also very good for athelete's foot. Nail fungus. Cuts, scratches, scrapes. And at $4 a bottle at Walmart, a good buy. yes.gif Especially with Summertime here...and all of it's challenges.

Yes it is!!! We use it as well............except the husband, who is horribly allergic.....he breaks out in hive type thigns...

Posted by: CelticMuse Apr 28 2006, 12:49 PM

olive oil in itself will cure many earaches according to my chiro. Tea tree oil is also good for lice.

Posted by: AKHomemom Apr 28 2006, 12:52 PM

Thanks for this info.
I may be making a stop at Wal Mart before Volleyball tonight.

Posted by: wings Apr 28 2006, 01:12 PM

It is a staple around here, one in each bath room, kitchen, and my room. It is good for bites, stings, general ouie dab, and now swimmers ear drops.

Has anyone here tried Neem? I have heard that is the Tea Tree Oil counterpart.

Ber

Posted by: Dr. Pepper Apr 28 2006, 01:19 PM

Could you use this with ear tubes???

Posted by: foxchild Apr 28 2006, 01:26 PM

I would think not since you can not get water in the ear and these are liquid but I do not know for sure. They do give you drops for after the surgery though. I would ask the ear, nose, and throat doctor first.

Posted by: chocolatechic Apr 28 2006, 01:32 PM

Ber, I have not heard of Neem...........

Posted by: AKHomemom Apr 28 2006, 01:50 PM

Tanya, I can't keep up with your sigs biggrin.gif

Everytime I look I see a different one.

Posted by: Dr. Pepper Apr 29 2006, 10:21 AM

QUOTE(foxchild @ Apr 28 2006, 01:26 PM)

I would think not since you can not get water in the ear and these are liquid but I do not know for sure. They do give you drops for after the surgery though. I would ask the ear, nose, and throat doctor first.



I will check with the ENT. However, our ENT lets my ds go swimming without plugging his ears and is not worried about the water in his ears. We swim every day and he has never had a problem except when we swam in a lake!!

Posted by: hs4hmom Apr 29 2006, 02:15 PM

QUOTE(wings @ Apr 28 2006, 11:12 AM)
Has anyone here tried Neem? I have heard that is the Tea Tree Oil counterpart.
Ber


I have this for rescue dogs. It's good for parasites (mites) when modern medicine won't help. I'm not sure what else it will do--especially for people.

And for a quick flea fix (not infested), I use olive oil on the puppies if they have them. There's usually only a few fleas and since the puppies are too young for the shampoo/treatment, this works really well on them. I cover them in it and leave it on for about 5 minutes or so. It suffocates the fleas and the eggs (flea dirt) just slide right off. Give them a bath with my shampoo mix (baby shampoo/tea tree oil/aloe vera gel) and they are good to go.

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Need Interesting Facts for Student Planners

Posted by: Appliejuice Feb 15 2006, 11:20 AM

Hi Ya'll. I am working on making my children student planners. My goal is to place a monthly calendar on one page and on the opposite side some interesting information. So, I am asking for a collection of funny jokes, interesting/weird/fun facts about anything, and anything else you may think a 3rd or 6th grader would like.

The 3rd grader likes horses and puppies.

The 6th grader likes reptiles. He already knows most of the facts about these, but send some in, if you have them. He already told me that 95% of Australia snakes are poisonous.

Things about geography and science would be good also. The boy will be doing Apologia General Science and Susie will be doing dunno.gif .

Thanks everyone.

This is going to be fun. banana.gif banana.gif banana.gif

Posted by: chocolatelover Feb 15 2006, 11:32 AM

I have a page somewhere about interesting facts or something like that....

I look for it and post it later.

Also I'll ask Gaby for some jokes......She is the comidian like her Daddy whistling.gif help2.gif

Posted by: chocolatelover Feb 15 2006, 01:34 PM

I'm just going to post a few....

I really need to get moving today.

Things you may not know ( or may not want to know)

Money isn't made out of paper. It's made out of cotton.

The 57 on Hienz katchup bottle represents the varieties of pickles the company once had.

The Declaration of Independence was written on hemp paper.

A raisin droppped in a glass of fresh champagne will bounce up and down coninuously from the botton of the glass to the top.

A duck's quack doesn't echo... no one knows why.

Every person has a unigue tongue print....so don't lick at a crime scene!


315 entries in the Webster's 1996 Dictionary were mispelled.

A tiny amount of liquor on a scorpion will make it instantly go mad and sting itself to death.



More to come later....
Don't know it that is what you wanted

Posted by: JessicaN Feb 15 2006, 03:10 PM

QUOTE(chocolatelover @ Feb 15 2006, 12:34 PM) *



A duck's quack doesn't echo... no one knows why.




that's a myth, saw it on TV once.

Posted by: chocolatelover Feb 15 2006, 03:13 PM

Oh, Well I have it one this page......


Don't believe everything that you read......

Or see....





I'll post somemore tonight or tomorrow AM

Posted by: JessicaN Feb 15 2006, 03:27 PM

Facts about $$$$

When was paper money first printed in the U.S.?
The U.S. Department of the Treasury first issued paper U.S. currency in 1862 to make up for the shortage of coins and to finance the Civil War. There was a shortage of coins because people had started hoarding them; the uncertainty caused by the war had made the value of items fluctuate drastically. Because coins were made of gold and silver their value didn't change much, so people wanted to hang onto them rather than buy items that might lose their value.

What denominations of bills were first printed?
The first paper notes were printed in denominations of 1 cent, 5 cents, 25 cents, and 50 cents.
How long does money last?
That depends on the denomination of the note. A $1 bill lasts 18 months; $5 bill, two years; $10 bill, three years; $20 bill, four years; and $50 and $100 bills, nine years. Bills that get worn out from everyday use are taken out of circulation and replaced.

How much does $1 million weigh?
That would depend on the denomination of the bills you use. Since there are 490 notes in a pound, if you used $1 bills it would weigh 2,040.8 pounds, but if you used $100 bills it would weigh only 20.4 pounds.

How much money is printed each day?
The Bureau of Engraving and Printing produces 38 million notes a day with a face value of approximately $541 million. That doesn't mean there is $541 million more money circulating today than there was yesterday, though, because 95% of the notes printed each year are used to replace notes already in circulation.

How many pennies were made in 1998?
There were more than 10 billion pennies made in 1998. The actual number of coins produced, by denomination, was as follows: pennies, 10,257,400,000; nickels, 1,323,672,000; dimes, 2,335,300,000; quarters, 1,867,400,000; half-dollars, 30,710,000.

What percentage of bills are $1 notes?
Almost half, 48 percent, of the notes printed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing are $1 notes.

What are the dimensions of U.S. paper currency?
Our present currency measures 2.61 inches wide by 6.14 inches long, and the thickness is 0.0043 inches.
Larger sized notes in circulation before 1929 measured 3.125 inches by 7.4218 inches.

What is money made of?
Coins are usually made of copper and another element, such as zinc or nickel. Currency paper is composed of 25 percent linen and 75 percent cotton. Red and blue synthetic fibers of various lengths are distributed evenly throughout the paper. Before World War I these fibers were made of silk.

Has a woman's portrait ever appeared on U.S. paper money?
Martha Washington is the only woman whose portrait has appeared on a U.S. currency note. It appeared on the face of the $1 Silver Certificate of 1886 and 1891, and the back of the $1 Silver Certificate of 1896.

What type of car appears on the back of the $10 bill?
Contrary to popular belief, the automobile pictured on the back of the $10 note is not a Model T Ford. There are four cars included in this vignette. These cars are of no specific make or model, but each is a composite of the cars available in December 1927, when the engraving for the plates was completed.

What time is it on the Independence Hall clock on the back of the $100 bill?
Though it would be difficult to tell without a magnifying glass, the hands of the clock in the steeple of Independence Hall are set at approximately 4:10.

Has an African American ever appeared on U.S. currency?
Paper money bears the signatures of four African American men who served as Registers of the Treasury (Blanche K. Bruce, Judson W. Lyons, William T. Vernon, and James C. Napier) and one African American woman who served as Treasurer of the United States (Azie Taylor Morton). No portraits of African Americans have appeared on paper money, but commemorative coins were issued in the 1940s bearing the images of George Washington Carver and Booker T. Washington, followed more recently by the release of a Jackie Robinson coin.



http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/101_earth_facts_030722-1.html


http://www.amusingfacts.com/facts/Animals_and_Creatures/

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/jericho-kids.html
This one is too long to put in a planner, but found it interesting wink.gif

Posted by: JessicaN Feb 15 2006, 03:39 PM

QUOTE(chocolatelover @ Feb 15 2006, 02:13 PM) *

Oh, Well I have it one this page......
Don't believe everything that you read......

Or see....
I'll post somemore tonight or tomorrow AM



I actually saw it on something like MythBusters. They took the duck into a special studio made for recording sound effects for TV shows and such. The room was full of glass or plexiglass sheets hung at all kinds of angles in the tiny room so that sounds would echo.

http://www.acoustics.salford.ac.uk/acoustics_world/duck/duck.htm

Posted by: chocolatelover Feb 15 2006, 03:59 PM

I don't usually watch that show...


I didn't mean that what you watched wasn't true......Just that we can't believe everything that we see, or read.

My Dr. will tell you that I need to learn that one.

Posted by: JessicaN Feb 15 2006, 04:04 PM

oh, trust me I don't believe everything I hear, and what I do believe, I take witha grain of salt. My DH works public affairs for the US Air Force. He can type up a press release, and give it to the papers and media, and they will still get it wrong.

When I was in 5th grade I got into a minor bike accident. By time it hit the local papers, I had been in a car accident and was rushed to the ER. I got all kinds of flowers and calls, all because I fell off my bike trying to avoid a clueless pedestrain, lol.

Speaking of the USAF, Applie - would anyone be interested in C130 facts (prop cargo planes used to drop tanks, and parachuters)?

Posted by: MNKristy Feb 15 2006, 04:08 PM

http://www.lburkhart.com/jokes.htm

Here's a link to a bunch of links with kid's jokes and humor. wohoo.gif

Posted by: chocolatelover Feb 15 2006, 04:22 PM

QUOTE(JessicaN @ Feb 15 2006, 03:04 PM) *

oh, trust me I don't believe everything I hear, and what I do believe, I take witha grain of salt. My DH works public affairs for the US Air Force. He can type up a press release, and give it to the papers and media, and they will still get it wrong.

When I was in 5th grade I got into a minor bike accident. By time it hit the local papers, I had been in a car accident and was rushed to the ER. I got all kinds of flowers and calls, all because I fell off my bike trying to avoid a clueless pedestrain, lol.

Speaking of the USAF, Applie - would anyone be interested in C130 facts (prop cargo planes used to drop tanks, and parachuters)?



Sorry you got hurt....but I would have loved the attention... rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Appliejuice Feb 15 2006, 04:50 PM

QUOTE(JessicaN @ Feb 15 2006, 03:04 PM) *

Speaking of the USAF, Applie - would anyone be interested in C130 facts (prop cargo planes used to drop tanks, and parachuters)?

I would. yes.gif

QUOTE(JessicaN @ Feb 15 2006, 03:04 PM) *

When I was in 5th grade I got into a minor bike accident. By time it hit the local papers, I had been in a car accident and was rushed to the ER. I got all kinds of flowers and calls, all because I fell off my bike trying to avoid a clueless pedestrain, lol.

laugh.gif I am sorry you got hurt, but the rest is pretty funny. Hope you enjoyed the "well earned" flowers. laugh.gif

Thanks everyone for the help. I am going to check out the links later when I have time. I like the information about the money. That is cool.

I checked out some books from the library with some facts in them. I'll have a look-see later. biggrin.gif

I will also be adding Bible verses.

This is so much fun. banana.gif I'll post what I have decided on, as I go along.

Posted by: JessicaN Feb 15 2006, 05:09 PM

When Dh gets home, I'll have him whip some facts at me. One of his duties as Public Affaris Officer is to give tours. Wanna come visit Niagara Falls? we could have a DY forum field trip, lol.

I got my planner in today from Rainbow, do you want to know what they put in theirs? maybe some of their bible verses?

Posted by: Appliejuice Feb 15 2006, 10:50 PM

QUOTE(JessicaN @ Feb 15 2006, 04:09 PM) *

Wanna come visit Niagara Falls? we could have a DY forum field trip, lol.

laugh.gif Actually, hubby goes up there for business in Canada. He was suppose to go next week, but will not be able to go now.

QUOTE

I got my planner in today from Rainbow, do you want to know what they put in theirs? maybe some of their bible verses?
Yes, I would like to know wha verses they use. smile.gif


I made calendars for the months of July through December 2006. They look really nice. I was going to continue with 2007, but I don't know all the holiday dates. Does anyone know how I can get that information?

Thanks.

Posted by: chocolatelover Feb 15 2006, 10:54 PM

Here's a computer joke I made up ( I think) I haven't ever heard it.


How do computers eat????

With Megabytes.




Posted by: Donna Feb 15 2006, 11:02 PM

http://www.butlerwebs.com/holidays/calendar.htm

Dates: scroll down a tad to see them.

Posted by: chocolatelover Feb 15 2006, 11:12 PM

QUOTE(JessicaN @ Feb 15 2006, 04:09 PM) *

I got my planner in today from Rainbow, do you want to know what they put in theirs? maybe some of their bible verses?



I would also be interested in some of the bible verses that they used.

Posted by: quiltinmommy Feb 15 2006, 11:22 PM

Maybe in March include facts about the Iditarod Sled Dog race as the Last Great Race.

February is the Yukon Quest a joint sled dog race between Canda and Alaska.

Posted by: JessicaN Feb 15 2006, 11:22 PM

I'll work on it tomorrow, it's been a very, very, long and tiring day.

Posted by: chocolatelover Feb 15 2006, 11:27 PM

Thank you, Jessica

Posted by: Appliejuice Feb 15 2006, 11:29 PM

QUOTE(quiltinmommy @ Feb 15 2006, 10:22 PM) *

Maybe in March include facts about the Iditarod Sled Dog race as the Last Great Race.

That's a good idea. yes.gif My girls watched Balto the other day. When I was pushing them around in the cart at the grocery store, they started saying, "MUSH Mama! MUSH" . laugh.gif

QUOTE(Donna @ Feb 15 2006, 10:02 PM) *

http://www.butlerwebs.com/holidays/calendar.htm

Dates: scroll down a tad to see them.

Thanks Donna! smile.gif

Posted by: jessicasmom Feb 19 2006, 12:36 AM

QUOTE(chocolatelover @ Feb 15 2006, 09:54 PM) *

Here's a computer joke I made up ( I think) I haven't ever heard it.
How do computers eat????

With Megabytes.


I have one too that I made up! laugh.gif

What do you say after you get a "Megabyte"?

You've been "Megabit"! laugh.gif

Posted by: krodriguez Feb 19 2006, 12:45 AM

QUOTE(Appliejuice @ Feb 15 2006, 09:29 PM) *

That's a good idea. yes.gif My girls watched Balto the other day. When I was pushing them around in the cart at the grocery store, they started saying, "MUSH Mama! MUSH" . laugh.gif
Thanks Donna! smile.gif



lmfao.gif That is so cute.

I have a book all about horses. It is called Eyewitness Handbooks: Horses. What is her favorite horse or breed, or does she have one? I can get some info from this for you. I know I have lots of other animal and geography books so I will check those out too. Trivial Pursuit would be an excellent place to find stuff like this. Their is a plethera of good information in that box. yes.gif

Posted by: Appliejuice Feb 20 2006, 11:42 PM

QUOTE(krodriguez @ Feb 18 2006, 11:45 PM) *

I have a book all about horses. It is called Eyewitness Handbooks: Horses. What is her favorite horse or breed, or does she have one? I can get some info from this for you. I know I have lots of other animal and geography books so I will check those out too. Trivial Pursuit would be an excellent place to find stuff like this. Their is a plethera of good information in that box. yes.gif

We have lots of horse books and I can use them for Susie. Thanks for the idea. smile.gif

Posted by: krodriguez Feb 21 2006, 04:08 PM

No prob. Hey, are you planning on posting pics of your planner??? I think I heard a yes, hmmm..... banana.gif

Posted by: foxchild Feb 21 2006, 04:49 PM

I think she posted a couple pictures on the homeschool discussions thread.

Posted by: krodriguez Feb 21 2006, 04:49 PM

Oh, I did not see them. I guess I need to go and look. Thanks Susan!

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A Sentence Funny

Posted by: Tressa Feb 25 2006, 02:20 AM

We were doing our grammar lesson today. Poor son is doing all the different types of pronouns and he is just so unhappy. smile.gif Poor guy.

My daughter is studying verbs. We were doing a little review before the lesson.

I asked, "What two parts does every sentence need?" (This might have been a little vague, but I have asked this question several times in previous reviews. I was looking for a subject and a predicate)

She replies, "Well, mommy, every sentence needs a beginning and an end." laugh.gif

She does have a point, but that wasn't quite what I wanted. biggrin.gif


Posted by: Sherinova Feb 25 2006, 02:24 AM


laugh.gif That is a cute answer!

Posted by: shelbygt Feb 25 2006, 02:27 AM

roflol.gif

Posted by: mimzie Feb 25 2006, 02:33 AM

LOL!!! She had to add something funny to the grammar!!

When I was homeschooled (only a year) There was a question in my science pack that said "What is a dense rock?"

I of course had to answer.... "A really dumb rock" LOL

Rachel

Posted by: Beth S...in AK Feb 25 2006, 03:42 AM

That is so cute!

Posted by: Sammi Feb 25 2006, 08:58 AM

Awwwwwwww! wub.gif

Posted by: mtbriere Feb 25 2006, 09:36 AM

laugh.gif

Posted by: cctabb Feb 25 2006, 09:25 PM

Well, she got the answer right. clap.gif

That was too cute.

Posted by: gsmp Feb 25 2006, 10:31 PM

lmfao.gif

Posted by: jessicasmom Feb 26 2006, 12:18 AM

That was a great alternative answer yes.gif I love the things that kids come out with yes.gif roflol.gif

Posted by: foxchild Feb 27 2006, 01:55 AM

roflol.gif roflol.gif roflol.gif
That is too cute and you can not really mark it wrong.

Posted by: Appliejuice Feb 27 2006, 11:04 PM

QUOTE(Tressa @ Feb 25 2006, 01:20 AM) *

I asked, "What two parts does every sentence need?" (This might have been a little vague, but I have asked this question several times in previous reviews. I was looking for a subject and a predicate)

She replies, "Well, mommy, every sentence needs a beginning and an end." laugh.gif

laugh.gif Just love it.

Posted by: Appliejuice Mar 1 2006, 11:00 PM

I was telling my family this story last night at dinner. I asked Susie the same question and she said, "Oh I know! It needs an upper case letter and a period." lmfao.gif

Tressa, I think we also need to have a little review. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Tressa Mar 1 2006, 11:06 PM

laugh.gif Too cute! I love it. yes.gif Alyssa would say, "Great minds think alike!" lmfao.gif

Posted by: chocolatelover Mar 1 2006, 11:43 PM

Applie, that is what Gaby always says too.

"It needs a Capital and a end mark."
If I say that isn't what I want to know.
I get the
"begining and end"

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Teaching Kids To Read

Posted by: mom23 Apr 19 2005, 09:19 AM

Did you teach your children to read when they were young (four, five or six)?

Do it in a "child-led" kind of way?

Delay reading?

How did you decide what to do? I taught DD to read when she was four. With my DS's, I wondered if I might just wait. I really liked the educational philosophies in A Thomas Jefferson Education (loads of classical reading, learning all subjects just through reading classics and maybe a formal math curriculum), but when I finally found a message board with moms talking about how they implement it in their homeschool, they were talking about how most of their children were much older when they learned to read, and it was child-led. I guess the benefit is that they would pick up reading much more quickly than a four or five year old. I started wondering what you other moms did. I guess the "norm" is to teach them at Kindergarten-age. I'm not to big on the child-led way of teaching, but I'm not necessarily an opponent of it, either.

-Lisa

Posted by: tagsfan Apr 19 2005, 09:40 AM

I started my daughter when she turned 5. She had learned all her letters and sounds before that, just kind of on her own. She was really wanting to learn to read. We used the Teach Your Child To Read book, and she did well up until the end of the book. It got too frustrating for her. So we put it away for a while and I didn't push. I just read to her and didn't ask her to do anything. One day a few months later I got out a Dr. Seuss or something like that and told her I wanted her to read a little bit and I would read most of it to her. She really surprised me and was reading words I hadn't taught her. So that is when we started back into phonics and trying to move on.

I'm learning that when she is not ready for anything, it is easy to figure out so we back off. But I'm always looking for ways to get back into it. I would feel really funny delaying reading, but I understand why people do it, and it makes sense. But I would just have a hard time with it.

My son will be 4 in about a month. I have started him with the same reading book I used for dd. He is always pointing to words and asking "What is that word?" or "What does that say?" or else I wouldn't be doing this. I think it is his way of telling me he is ready to move on.

Posted by: apples Apr 19 2005, 09:42 AM

My 3 yr old likes when we have our read-a-louds and has been trying to read on his own. He'll pretend hes reading while moving his finger over the pages in a left to right motion over the words while telling a story from his own books. Though he doesn't know what the words are he looks at the pictures and reads to me or the rest of the family and waits for our narration of what he has read and has even asked questions!

Sometimes, he'll ask what a word is. I am a firm believer in reading aloud it helps with vocabulary skills, and communication skills. Its a natural way of our learning here.

I don't force the issue, but for letter, number, shape, color recognition if he wants something, I have a game we play sometimes. I'll ask him to show me letter d or color blue or a shape.

In our game he has learned to count to 12 in German, days of the week, greetings, colors and will be working on shapes.

We started this in Spanish also. My dd wants to learn sign language too.

If we make a game of it all my kids and self have a better time.

Posted by: mtbriere Apr 19 2005, 09:50 AM

I agree. I think that we really need to concentrate on learning more who our children are and what works best for them.

This is my first year homeschooling and my kids are older, but I did teach my oldest dd to read when she was a young 5. She didn't start kindergarten until after she turned 6, but she always did well in ps. She is my self-starter, she is now almost 15 and gets her books out every morning before I am even aware that she has started.

My 2nd dd is 12 and I did not teach her to read bc I had gone back to work. I left it up to the ps and she was not reading until the 1st grade. sad.gif But, she LOVES to read. You hardly ever see her without a book - but a textbook? It takes a little more encouragement on my part to get her going.

And finally 10 yo ds. He STRUGGLED learning to read in ps. Then I found out that he had reversal issues. He is now in 4th grade and we're just seeing the signs of reading fluently. However, he despises to read. He despises schoolwork. I think that his reading experience would have been better if I had homeschooled from the beginning, but it still would have been difficult. It gets very frustrating for him.


Posted by: CelticMuse Apr 19 2005, 10:18 AM

it really depends on the child some children like to learn how to read early and other's don't.

If you encounter resistance or an unhappy child I wouldn't teach reading. BTW, whether you teach your child to read at 4 or 7 most children even out in skills at about 9. So it really doeons't matter if you teach early or late. Of course this is dependent upon if there is any dyslexia or other reading issues.


I taught my older son to read at a young 5, he hates to read now. Noah, 7 who is dyslexic on the other hand can't wait until he can read to himself. Go figure......

Posted by: Sherinova Apr 19 2005, 10:27 AM

We didn't exactly do child-led reading...but it was definitely "child-ready". I don't think there's much difference between the two, except that a ready child might not want to learn yet.

I started both my ds around the age of 5. I used 100 Easy Lessons w/my oldest and we started the book 3 times before getting through it. I mixed in Explode the Code, Bob Books, and Pathway Readers. I even tried Pathway's workbooks, but they were just too much. He was really quite easy to teach reading. At first I thought I tried to start him too young, but I think he just needed some time to truly absorb all the phonics he had learned before pressing on. He reads above his 3rd grade level and has excellent comprehension. I don't really think the curriculum I chose had anything to do with it...it's just his natural ability.

My youngest has been quite different. I waited until he said he wanted to read and then started him in 100 EZLs. It was a struggle after the first 10 or so lessons and we restarted the book twice, maybe 3 times. He was also doing the pre primer Explode the Code. I suspect he had some tracking problems. So we stopped for awhile and then I bought the R&S phonics. It was OK at first, but he tired of the work....resistance & tears ...so I stopped that program. He's 6 1/2 now and we're using Ordinary Parent's Guide to Teaching Reading...and it's working! clap.gif He is easily frustrated so I try to be very attune to this and gauge how much we cover on a daily & weekly basis. I have read Ruth Beechick's books on reading and any article I can find written by her. Her writings are so practical and so encouraging to me. This child loves to be read to though and doesn't hesitate to ask anyone older than him to read him a book. He also has such a gift with the spoken word biggrin.gif that I never thought reading would be a problem.

To be honest...I guess I don't know what approach I've used. I personally don't think 5 is too young to start reading. But, then if I would have waited, maybe the process would have been easier and taken less time. dunno.gif

I chose 100 EZL because of it's reputation as a successful reading program. It is not a phonics program, but the child learns how to read and read phonetically. So I knew I would need to supplement, thus ETC.
I chose R&S because we like R&S materials. I will have my youngest read the readers, but will probably start him about 1/2 way through the first year reader this summer.
Ordinary Parent's Guide to Teaching Reading is a wonderful thing. I wish it had been around for my first ds. We roughly follow the WTM classical ed model. I've used SOTW and First Language Lessons from them as well and it's all been good IMO.

Boy, am I rambling on today or what!

Posted by: Donna Apr 19 2005, 01:28 PM

My daughter (the younger of my two kids) was six when she had a daily reading lesson. I had tried earlier when she was still 5 (which was before she started kindergarten.) When we started kindergarten she was "all for" having the daily lessons. I don't know if it was readiness or the environment of being in kindergarten. Prior to kindergarten she just wanted to play (which was fine with me) and wouldn't have anything to do with a sit down type lesson.

Her kindergarten year was the first year we homeschooled, her older brother spent his k-2 in ps. Had I homeschooled him for k-2, it is possible that she may have wanted to be like him and have school too and it is possible that she would have been willing to have a sit-down reading lesson at an earlier age. dunno.gif

Another factor with my daughter is that she when she was between 2 and 4 she did not especially like being read to. I would try to read to her, but she would grab the book out of my hands and hug the book and say, "mine!" rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Melanie Apr 19 2005, 01:36 PM

My son started learning to read at three and was reading fluently by age four. He was very interested in reading from the time he could hold a book - he was fascinated. My daughter has always been a reluctant reader, but she started learning around age four/five so she could start playing board games with the rest of the family. She's six now and is just starting to read for pleasure. We did not use any programs; I taught them with a notebook and pencil and made it just a nice time on the couch with Mom - no rush, no pressure.

Melanie

Posted by: cosmo373 Apr 19 2005, 09:38 PM

My ds just stated learning to read this school year he turn 7 in Oct. I was so glad that in the state of TX you do not have to start until the age of 6 and on top of that his birthday let me wait another year. Until this year I could not get him to sit down and even listen to stories or work on anything for that matter.

Dd on the other hand, we tried to start at 5 because she wanted to learn to read but we ran into a few stumbling blocks. She had some vision problems, letter reversal, and just all out dyslexia. Now at 9 she reads beautifully and loves to read that is all she wants to do in school. Last year she read the entire beginner Bible in about three months.

So I guess my beat advise is trust your instinct and your children will let you know.


Posted by: TerriLynn Apr 19 2005, 09:56 PM

QUOTE (apples @ Apr 19 2005, 08:42 AM)
My 3 yr old likes when we have our read-a-louds and has been trying to read on his own. He'll pretend hes reading while moving his finger over the pages in a left to right motion over the words while telling a story from his own books. Though he doesn't know what the words are he looks at the pictures and reads to me or the rest of the family and waits for our narration of what he has read and has even asked questions!

We started using now I'm reading, pre-reader by innovative kids and this is exactly how they have to you it. You read it several times moving your finger and they copy and when they can read the picture, they get a sticker and you move on to the next book but go back to keep the other books fresh. Each time they make progress in a book they get a sticker.

My 4y/o really likes it a lot and gets encouraged by the stickers.

terrilynn

Posted by: MomofBunbun Apr 19 2005, 10:34 PM

QUOTE (cosmo373 @ Apr 19 2005, 08:38 PM)
Last year she read the entire beginner Bible in about three months.


clap.gif Awesome job!! clap.gif

Posted by: carmatlock Apr 25 2005, 02:28 AM

My oldest started asking me questions like what does that start with or what does that say. . .so I started teaching him. He now is done with a whole K portion of reading I got from someone. Then I have 1st grade reading only. . .so may start with that next. I have reading K,1,2,3 grade stuff. . .all kinds of little books that are small, leveled books. . .I got tons of those. . .we are reading poor. . .haha But that is a good thing. So anyway with oldest he just started seeming like he was ready and was reading 5 months before his 5 yo bday.

With the twins it may be another 4 years. . .ha They are so much more delayed I notice than older son. They do like to snatch the book away and say I am reading. . .The other day I got one of the K readers and read slowly and they were copying what I read. . .I was excited that they did that. . .Maybe it will be just 3 1/2 years instead of 4. Just kidding. . .But I do think one of the twins may be in our remedial department and one may be in the Gifted and Talented and one may be in our just plain normal department laugh.gif laugh.gif

i can ask one of the twins. . .

OK--this is green---what color is this????? He looks at me like I am crazy. I guess he figures--look lady you just told me what color it is so why do you need me to tell you what color it is. . .you must be crazy. . .were you dropped at birth or something. . .I'm smarter than that. . .

or is he????? Then I worry---will I be able to handle this one. . .????? So I may have all extreme cases and one in between. . .I may have my hands full once the twins get going. . .

Oh well. . .God gave them to me to teach and help. . . .so I know if he asked me to do this. . .then I am up for the challenge. . .prob this twin who I think needs remedial---will prob be a dr or something. . .he is prob just thinking "what is my mom talking about. . .!" I would love to know what kids think sometimes when we say silly things. . .

dunno.gif dunno.gif dunno.gif

Carmen

Posted by: mtbriere Apr 25 2005, 10:43 AM

QUOTE (cosmo373 @ Apr 19 2005, 07:38 PM)
She had some vision problems, letter reversal, and just all out dyslexia. Now at 9 she reads beautifully and loves to read that is all she wants to do in school. Last year she read the entire beginner Bible in about three months.

Did you use any special programs or was it just a desire in her? My son has reversal issues, but by the time we had him tested (age 9), he had learned enough words that he could compensate and still read at an acceptable level. They would not label it dyslexia or learning disabled. He can read, but hates it. Maybe it's just a "boy thing".

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