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> What About A 504?, going from ps to hs on a 504
anakalias
post Apr 27 2005, 09:13 PM
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How does one go about pulling a child on a 504 (ADHD/mild hearing loss) out of public school and still give accomodations? Also I believe that my daughter may eventually put on a 504 or IEP (possible ADD and/or LD in math), but the district probably wont get to it until the fall and I want her out of ps in June and don't want to wait any longer for the district to finally help my child after 4 years of struggle and psych. testing. How do I accomadate her needs and still be in compliance with the state (Ohio), or is this not possible? I have had her privately tested and she was given ADD/LD in math diagnosis. School did their own testing and disagreed. Now she is in 8th grade, has no self-esteem or confidence at school. I just had her privately tested tested again and am waiting on results. If I can do my own plan to accomodate her, can the district cause problems since they told me before that "I can get a private doctor to say anything"? I am confused!
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gsmp
post Apr 28 2005, 06:06 AM
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I'll ask my husband to double check but I believe it was a federal law passed that has to do with the disabilites act. It prohibits public schools from interfering with parents of special needs children deciding on how to educate their children.

It is supposed to give the parents more control. Let me check, dh works for a publishing company that does nothing but publish law books and software.
They also produce two of the most prestigious law review papers the Supreme Court and Congress subscribe. He has the resources to look it up.

I remember hearing about it because of this very thing. They were talking about how if you let the public school system test your child , it's hard to get them out because the ps wants to mandate their needs and such. This was supposed to be a boon for homeschooler's.

Oh...I just thought you might be able to find something out from HSLDA. But I'll check , if you'd like.


Ginger
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apples
post Apr 28 2005, 06:26 AM
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user posted imageI'm not sure either, but do wish you the best. Did you check with your state laws on hs?

I wouldn't ask the school board, their answers will be in their best interests not your or your childs. Since they do get more funding if the child is labeled with disabilities.

HSLDA would be a great place to ask information on your state laws and their requirements for hs. Good luck on your new journey there none like it.

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anakalias
post Apr 28 2005, 06:36 AM
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Thank you, gsmp, for offering to look into it. I really appreciate it! I have checked out HSLDA and really didn't find much on their website except that rules vary from state to state - but doesn't give individual states rules on 504s or IEPs. My concern is that if I accomodate my childs needs with math, she still wont pass the proficiency tests, and what happens then? I look forward to hearing what you find out, and again, thank you so much!
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gsmp
post Apr 28 2005, 07:01 AM
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No problem......I already called my husband. He said he remembered briefly hearing about it and would look into it.

We have a friend her in Virginia, who's daughter is severly dyslexic. She paid out of pocket to have her dd tested. She knew if she went thru the ps they wouldwant to get involved with dd's education. She didn't want the state interfering. She pulled her out of the christian school all of our kids were going to and decided to homeschool.

At the time she pulled her dd out (4th grade) she could barely read above a first grade level. She homeschooled for 2 years using a special dyslexic program. In the 5th grade she took her sol's and scored at just above 7th grade 1 month reading level.

I hope that is encouraging to you. It can be done and who would know better than mom on how to help her child.
There is a really good website written by a lady who recommends that kids with add be pulled from ps and homeschooled. She says it is really the best option and the kids seem to thrive. I am going to see if I can find it for you. It helped me with some of the things I do with my kids. It's loaded with info.


Ginger
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gsmp
post Apr 28 2005, 07:12 AM
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Found It!!!

http://borntoexplore.org/index.html


This site is really good. There are alot of books that she recommends. Acouple I have checked into. She believes there are alot of kids and adults who are add/adhd, but she doesn't think that there are as many as are being medicated. She eventually decided to pull her son out and homeschool.

I had to print everything out as I read it. I have a problem reading from the computer. I have it stored in a resource notebook.

It has a lot of resources listed, books that you could check out from the library.


Will let you know as soon as hubbs, calls me.


Ginger
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mtbriere
post Apr 28 2005, 08:36 AM
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Another place you may want to look for specific requirements is your state doe website. I do know that in many states specific school districts vary in what they will allow and some are not even educated on their own state's educational statutes! Good luck and let us know.
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2Bgracious
post Apr 28 2005, 09:49 AM
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You may want to CALL hslda...not just look on their website...they will connect you to the attorney in your area (and are really good at calling you back ASAP). He could go into details that the website doesn't.
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momster
post Apr 30 2005, 06:40 PM
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Hmmmmmmmmmm I never even considered the legal raminifications when I took my kids out of school... I just did!!

My oldest is gifted ADHD... while his grades were fantastic, I hated him on ritalin... (drug of choice at the time) so when he came home, I took him off.. and though we struggle sometimes, he has learned to adapt... without meds. He is now in 10th grade and doing great.. though, I admit, sometimes a pill seems sooooo tempting! stunned.gif

My middle two children both have/had learning difficulties in the past. Though they have not been formally diagnosed, it is my belief that they are also ADD and dyslexic. It took a lot work one on one with my daughter to get her reading.. and now, she loves it! her reading level is right in step with where she is suppose to be (a far cry from two years ago, when she was way way behind.) My son, who is in 7th now has a reading level of 9.6! (He couldn't read at all when I took him out of ps at the end of first grade and struggled up until last year) Things are finally starting to come together for the kids and I can tell you, I see a differnce not only in their school work, but in their confidence, self esteem, they are happier, more joyful... its totally amazing.

My youngest daughter is also ADHD/dyslexic.. but because she has never been to ps, has never had the stipulation of not being learning disabled.. she simply can't read yet... but she will.. in her time.. just like the others...

I pretty much made my own 504 up as I went along... following what they 'would' have if they had been in ps... extra time for tests, tests being read aloud to them, extra time on assignments, being able to do some things orally, ect...

teaching kids with special needs is challanging, yes.. but it can be done! and the results are so worth the effort!

Good luck and Godbless!
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