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| Appliejuice |
  Oct 8 2005, 01:57 PM
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We have hit a brick wall with large division problems. Two digit divisiors are difficult for the boy, but he does work through them with much agony. Now we are onto three digit divisiors. Yesterday he was in tears about it. We have another couple of lessons on this before we move on to something else. Does anyone have any suggestions on a different way to teach this?
Example of what we are doing: 266,178 divide by 491 We are rounding the 491 to 500 to estimate how much 491 will go into 2661. Once you figure out how many goes in there (5), you multiply 5 x 491 to get the amount to subtract from 2661. And so on down the problem. Any suggestions? We are using Rod and Staff. I am looking for a creative way to explain this.  Thanks! |
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| Appliejuice |
 Oct 10 2005, 12:49 PM
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No one has any creative ideas for long division?
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| tabv |
Oct 10 2005, 12:56 PM
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Sorry
 the best ideas I can come up with involve money and food, both which have great meaning to kids lol.Still thinking... |
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| Tressa |
Oct 10 2005, 01:14 PM
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Sorry, Applie..this is a toughie.
 I know we have to learn how to do it, but I don't do major long division without a calculator anymore. 
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| Donna |
Oct 10 2005, 02:05 PM
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It really is a tough one. 
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| chocolatechic |
Oct 10 2005, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(Appliejuice @ Oct 10 2005, 01:49 PM) No one has any creative ideas for long division?  use a calculator???  Seriously....no....I don't, my kids struggle through as well.... |
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| Melanie |
Oct 10 2005, 02:19 PM
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Sorry. We go through it the long, painful way. I don't know any tricks.
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| Appliejuice |
Oct 10 2005, 04:49 PM
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Well, ya'll are just a bunch of help.
  Just kidding. The boy did his work today, but I have checked it yet. I did tell him that he had two more lessons on this and then we could move on. The sooner he got it done, the sooner he could move on. That really doesn't work on the kids. What did help, was that fact that he couldn't go out and play with a friend until his work was done.  |
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| chocolatelover |
Oct 10 2005, 10:30 PM
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All I am going to say is.................................
and thank goodness I don't have to worry about this yet. 
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| Blaise |
Oct 10 2005, 11:57 PM
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My youngest dd is having a problem with the 'what do next' stuff in math too. She understood everything up until this point with no problem. She just isn't getting the 'next step' part.
Now, my oldest... she is getting it! She flys through pre-algebra problems like a hot knife through butter... but she didn't get the earlier stuff.  What I'm doing is just making them stay where they are and do the same type problems over and over and over until they get it. They hate me for it... and start whining that if they were in public school they could just move onto something else.  That's when I start dialing on the phone to the school board to ask how to enroll them... they quickly shut up! 
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| gsmp |
Oct 11 2005, 08:25 AM
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Randy had one but He will have to be the one to type it in.......I couldn't get it.
He was sitting here explaining it to me........... ........I told him I needed to see a picuture or written exaple........ Have you come across "Casting of Nine's" yet? He's gotten really good at that one...... |
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| siscaboo1512 |
Oct 11 2005, 08:30 AM
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Long division is not my strongest point. I just round to the nearest whole number that is what is easiest for me. But, I think that you said that you already tried that. Sorry I couldn't be of any help. But, I do hope that he gets it.
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| hsbeliever |
Oct 11 2005, 09:37 AM
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I happened upon this site. The method is acclaimed by some and disliked by others, but I can see where it might be helpful, especially in the beginning. I think it could be used to make kids more comfortable with multi-digit division. Students could gradually be weaned from the method as they become more comfortable with long division problems.
double division |
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| chocolatechic |
Oct 11 2005, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(gsmp @ Oct 11 2005, 09:25 AM) Have you come across "Casting of Nine's" yet? Casting out 9's is evil!!! Pure evil, and I don't make my kiddo's do it... Basically because I don't understand how to do it...
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| gsmp |
Oct 11 2005, 11:44 AM
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I'm with ya..............it is eveil.......................
But it does work...............with Randy's help!!!!
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| Appliejuice |
 Oct 11 2005, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(gsmp @ Oct 11 2005, 09:25 AM) Have you come across "Casting of Nine's" yet? He's gotten really good at that one...... Yes, we are doing that. Have you gotten to double/divide yet? That is cool, but more difficult than casting out nines. QUOTE(hsbeliever @ Oct 11 2005, 10:37 AM) Thanks! I'll check this out later. QUOTE(chocolatechic @ Oct 11 2005, 11:08 AM) Casting out 9's is evil!!! Pure evil, and I don't make my kiddo's do it... Basically because I don't understand how to do it... Actually, I think it is rather cool. I never knew you could do that. I am learning so much with the math stuff, that I am sad I wasn't taught this in school myself.
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| Sammi |
Oct 16 2005, 07:17 AM
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I couldn't figure out casting out 9's, so we skipped it!
I wish I could figure it out. |
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| Sherinova |
Oct 16 2005, 09:36 AM
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Knowing R&S, there will be future opportunities to practice long & boring division..
I'd work through it with him to make sure he understands the process and then go on. Maybe work in some review problems every now and then. ??? Not very creative advice...but it's all I've got.
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| chocolatechic |
Oct 16 2005, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(Sammi @ Oct 16 2005, 08:17 AM) I couldn't figure out casting out 9's, so we skipped it! I wish I could figure it out. That is what we did....I just make them do the problems the normal way. |
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| Sammi |
Oct 16 2005, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(chocolatechic @ Oct 16 2005, 11:41 AM) That is what we did....I just make them do the problems the normal way. Me too. But it seems as if those are the very long and difficult problems. Did you notice that too? |
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